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EvenBob


2. Stalin brought Russia out of the medieval ages..


Stalin murdered over 20 million of his own people, totally
on purpose. he should be karma's poster boy. If life was
fair.
'It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail.' Gore Vidal
EvenBob

We really don't know if Rockefeller suffered consequences.


He lost all his hair and had a bad stomach and lived
to be 99. He didn't drink or smoke or cheat on his
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idyllic rich man's life.
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bbvk05

You legally have to return lost and found property to the original owner on request without exception, there is no 'finders keepers'. Not sure if game payouts qualify however. But if winnings are viewed as contract overpayments, you are obliged to return them if requested, and it can be enforced.


This is correct. It is a contract overpayment and you are obligated to return it. It does not, however, violate any criminal laws. The casino's only means of legal force is a civil suit or possibly a gaming commission process. They cannot use physical force to make you turn it over. It is also unlikely they can legally underpay you the amount you were overplayed at the cage, but I have heard of this happening.

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It is not theft nor is it criminal to refuse to return overpayment. It also isn't lost or abandoned property.
I would also note that certain types of lost or abandoned property really are 'finders keepers,' but generally the actual owner has a superior right to the finder. None of that applies here.
Paigowdan

Clearly it can be enforced but is less likely to be if you are ignorant or appear to be ignorant of what has beeen happening.

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It will be explained to the person.
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It is not theft nor is it criminal to refuse to return overpayment.


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The IRS is an exception.
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AlanMendelson
If I knew I was being overpaid I would not accept the overpayment. I have been overpaid before and immediately returned the money.
One interesting story from several years ago at Caesars:
The shooter in craps had just made a point of 8. On the next come out roll he rolled a six, but the dealer on my side of the table forgot to move the puck from the 8 to the six.
On the very next roll, the shooter rolled a winner-6. That was no problem for the other side of the table, where the puck was correctly on the 6. But on my side of the table the puck was on 8.
The floorman made the decision to pay the passline and odds for both sides of the table, PLUS even though the 6 was rolled, the place bets on 8 were also paid.
That's what I call customer service and correcting a dealer error.
FleaStiff
Yes, and sometimes the Box will discover the discordant 'pucks' during a roll, make a ruling and ask right then for anyone to speak up or forever hold his peace. A quick interruption and a generous resolution and the game proceeds. Casinos know dealers get tired or inattentive for a variety of reasons and the casino has no desire to annoy customers or magnify nor perpetuate errors, but when they discover an over payment such as a call from surveillance they may have no choice. Either way: once the decision is announced, that is it. Arguing with the umpire is for the suckers watching the game.
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The IRS has a specific statute that covers their request for return of overpayment. That which is not covered by a specific statute is not criminal.
Paigowdan

The IRS has a specific statute that covers their request for return of overpayment. That which is not covered by a specific statute is not criminal.


People have done time for not paying taxes in rare cases, depending on extreme cases.
Even with it not being criminal, they can certain impose restrictions to impact someone's life. Don't tell me this is not true.
Every punitive measure applied over a person shows that someone else has a certain authority to take action against your will or intent, without the need for a criminal court to weigh in. You can get some of your property re-allocated to the IRS, or get 86-ed from a casino, without it being a criminal court matter.
The fact that some issue does not always end up in criminal court or even involve lawyers, doesn't always validate that a person was in the right.
You can be told 'no, you broke rules/did something wrong' without a lawyer or judge being required, and without the 'casino players'/card counters/chip snatchers' Bill of Rights being shown to you on demand. And the person telling you this may indeed have a certain authority over you; quite often it is 'just' a wife or floorman or boss.
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' 'casino players'/card counters/chip snatchers' ' why are card counters linked to chip snattchers ?